The update I'm working on should be a valid candidate for publishing on Steam. So... Early access later this year I guess. The game will be nowhere near finished but at least should give a decent idea of what the finished product will be.
I never really leave comments/reviews for games, especially for vn games, but after finishing an ending in this game (v0.5.5) a few minutes ago, I feel like I had to write one up, mostly to vent it out.
Just to get it out the way, HEED THE WARNING in the game description and If you are looking for a harem type vn, I am warning you to STEER CLEAR away from this game. I Acknowledge that I was not the target audience for the game and it left a very negative impression on me.
But, if you are looking for something different, unique from other vns, you will love this, from an artistic perspective, It is a phenomenal story. It is great, I see the vision, I remember seeing a comment about the bad ending making this game stand out, and I agree. That was the vision, I wouldn't change a thing.
But as a person that was not the intended audience, a harem vn enjoyer, man did the ending f me up. I was enjoying the game till the ending, I was hoping for a good ending, or just a harem ending, instead the ending I got came out of left field, even if it was foreshadowed. Like I said before, I respect the art, I hope you don't take any offence to what I say next Mr.Developer, but I genuinely hope I forget about this story, may it be erased from my memory. Other than that, I wish you the best, and I wish you luck, keep up the good work:)
Thank you for your honest review. I do appreciate feedback especially when they are objective like yours.
Indeed, you are not the target audience!
However, I feel like I have to add that this bad ending is avoidable and in the most recent version of the game, I included a walkthrough to make it easier to explore the different paths.
That being said, even like that, Summer Scent isn't a Harem game. But there will be happy endings. In fact, there will be more happy endings than anything else. But no harem.
Needs less focus on shooting out constant development logs filled with minor info dumps and endless constant tweaking of past chapters few of us will deign to replay, and more focus on new material. From what I recall, I think there were only two semi-substantial updates that actually included new material in like two years maybe? Had forgotten this game even existed till now. If they were major updates, I could understand it. But they were pretty minor. The game has potential but needs more focus on the finish line and less fixation on creative perfection of already released materials riddled with rewrites and do overs. Those can be tweaked on or after the final version in my opinion. Stop questioning every step, and push your project forward. These types of games need major updates every 6 months to hold interest. Had my interest a year ago. Not so much anymore.
Well, sorry if you don't like it, but I think these updates are important. I want those who follow me to know what I'm working on.
Sinde 2022, I published about 70 k words of content and about 2000 renders. Not counting what I'm working on at the moment. I have no doubt that it can feel shallow if you play only a path rather than the whole game. But the content is still there. I am slow, that is true. If I wasn't constantly tweaking, rewriting and over stuff, the game wouldn't be as "promising".
However, you are right about my dev cycle being too long. I release every 8 months at the moment, and it's clearly too long. I hope to improve this in the future, as I will be closing some loose ends that will simplify the branching and the writing. However, the posing will still be the most consuming part of the work and I don't see how I can compress it.
I think the Dev updates are very useful, but I can see how it can be annoying to see an update for the game only to find out it's not really an update. Keep doing you and ignore this guy. If he doesn't like it, he can find something else.
I personally really appreciate the dev updates. Sure I would love updated content faster, but if i know that the project is moving forward and whatever goes on behind the scenes, I feel that is valuable to me.
agree'd. some of the best AVNs have potato graphics. and the following is not directed at anyone in particular - it seems like too many devs are trying to create visual perfection and get stuck in constant 're-work' cycles, and they forget us consumers are just looking for cartoons we can use our own imaginations with to fill in the gaps. if we wanted photorealism, we'd just watch porn. we play AVNs for the story, not the pretty pictures. i dont care how many hairs are on the head of the girl, or how deep her 7.32 million 3d pores are, as long as she has something interesting to say. theres nothing worse than getting invested in a story, then finding out that the author will probably get covid and die before its finished. and its all due to the subscription model. worse, idea, ever. i dont care how may boring teenagers who would otherwise have to stay in school, and instead can now make boring teenage games for bored teenage audiences. patreon = worst, idea, ever.
Well, that's quite simple. Without Patreon, I wouldn't be working on that game.
It's not about making something perfect, but something decent. You can catch more flies with honey than with vinegar. I'm trying to transform my vinegar into honey. That's why the rework needs to happen.
"Without Patreon, I wouldn't be working on that game." a sacrifice i'm prepared to make for a better system to develop. i'm so old, i remember when ppl sold finished products.
please help me. i've bought the game to play on my mac. but when it ry to install it this app says that the title is hosed on a third party website. i've downloaded it through Chrome but i can't install and play the game.
I'm sorry for the inconvenience. Itch support forwarded your mail to me. I replied, hoping they would it forward to you.
According to the renpy documentation, you have to uncompress the archive and directly double-click the app. I'm quoting the documentation because I don't own a mac and never tried it myself. However, feedback from mac users seems to confirm that.
Let me know if it helps you!
You can contact me directly on Discord for a more instantaneous discussion.
i tries to start the application by double clicking the icon. i recieve the message that the developer can't be verified. and the mac can't verify that the app doesn't have malware in it
Hello again. It's normal. You will have to trust me and launch the app anyway. The error message should give you some options. Something like “Open the Settings App, and approve the unverified app”
3 - If you’re sure you trust the app developer, you can override your security settings and allow the app to install and open.
Open Finder.
Locate the app you’re trying to open.
Control+Click the app.
Select Open.
Click Open.
The app should be saved as an exception in your security settings, allowing you to open it in the future.
4 - Bypass the block in your Security & Privacy settings. If the previous method didn’t work, you can go into your Security & Privacy settings and do it manually.
Open the Apple menu, and click System Preferences.
Click Security & Privacy.
Click the General tab.
Click the lock in the lower right corner of the window.
Enter your username and password when prompted, and click Unlock.
Click the App Store and Identified Developers radial button.
Look for “(App Name) was blocked from opening because it is not from an identified developer” and click Open Anyway. (In older versions of macOS, you could click Anywhere and then click Allow From Anywhere.)
Try rerunning the app.
5 - Download the app through Safari. If the above process didn’t work, make sure you downloaded the app using Safari. There’s an issue where downloading apps through other browsers, like Chrome and Edge, will cause a problem when trying to install unsigned apps.
Delete the app you downloaded through another web browser.
Restart your Mac.
Download the app using Safari.
Try to run the app.
When you get the error message, perform the Security & Privacy fix outlined in the previous step.
I hope this will resolve your issue. Thank you for your patience.
I love this game so much, quick question how long will this game be once everything is done? Just asking out of curiosity that's all. Keep up the good work as always and take your time with the new update!
Right now, the game is about 270 000 words. And I think I'm at about 65% of the story. Once finished (including the rework of old content), the whole thing will probably be around 450 000 words.
However, I have no goals in terms of words or amount of content. This is just an estimation.
Man, your game is very good. I have played all of versions and new version which day 6 part 3 is added. U sure worked on that well. But .. I think I changed beginning toooo much. You added new dialogues and removed old ones, but I can surely say old one's were better - for example, in new version , Cassie sees MC as a hero and gives all of weird speech(too much) just for he picked her up on the street. I mean her love started too fast it became weird. In old version , it was sure better.
And why spending time on Cassie Dom path? Man, I love your game but this path is absolutely bulshit, and why need for to double it? So his a-hole can be destroyed better? Dude, instead you could make Kelly path better or add 7th day. It is disturbing to watch as you say "not great sex scene incoming; save here".
All the problems aside, this 6th day made things more clear and better. I don't know, if game was a book, I would have read 11million lines. Hope we will get full release soon.
I'll check the new version of day one. I didn't find Cassie to be "falling in love" with Jack that easily, but maybe I'm wrong.
I understand perfectly that some may not like the femdom-oriented paths. But some others do!
The seventh day is still pretty far away. The night of day 6 is going to be quite eventful and heavy on the lewds. I'm not sure how I will split it. There is a lot of content ahead and I won't be able to release it in a single update.
Yeah man, you got spirit. Just don't worry about some haters words, you know , they were ass fucked whIle they were kid by their uncle that made them addicted to extreme sex. They just can't feel the power of Lines.
As I said, we hope better updates soon too, like I sometimes forget about how many damn paths your game has, each with its own story.
And do a little favour by making MC's parents late by adding some serious problems like - thief steal their passport, or dad's business works last longer. Idk others but I would wait more than I waited for GTA VI . Thanks 😎 dude
I scanned the files and didn't find anything. However, I know that renpy games may give some false positive with some AV. Better safe than sorry however!
Hello. May I ask which version of the game are you trying to download? On my side, all the links seem to work properly. Do you encounter a specific error?
If you haven't fixed the issue yet, feel free to hit me on Discord and we'll see what we can do.
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Love it so much !
As soon as this drops in Steam (if ever in the future), I'm taking it instantly, faster than the Flash.
Absolutely phenomenal game
Thank you !
A steam release should happen later this year!
When is this bad chicken coming to Steam? I can't wait to play it
The update I'm working on should be a valid candidate for publishing on Steam. So... Early access later this year I guess. The game will be nowhere near finished but at least should give a decent idea of what the finished product will be.
I never really leave comments/reviews for games, especially for vn games, but after finishing an ending in this game (v0.5.5) a few minutes ago, I feel like I had to write one up, mostly to vent it out.
Just to get it out the way, HEED THE WARNING in the game description and If you are looking for a harem type vn, I am warning you to STEER CLEAR away from this game. I Acknowledge that I was not the target audience for the game and it left a very negative impression on me.
But, if you are looking for something different, unique from other vns, you will love this, from an artistic perspective, It is a phenomenal story. It is great, I see the vision, I remember seeing a comment about the bad ending making this game stand out, and I agree. That was the vision, I wouldn't change a thing.
But as a person that was not the intended audience, a harem vn enjoyer, man did the ending f me up. I was enjoying the game till the ending, I was hoping for a good ending, or just a harem ending, instead the ending I got came out of left field, even if it was foreshadowed. Like I said before, I respect the art, I hope you don't take any offence to what I say next Mr.Developer, but I genuinely hope I forget about this story, may it be erased from my memory. Other than that, I wish you the best, and I wish you luck, keep up the good work:)
Hello there.
Thank you for your honest review. I do appreciate feedback especially when they are objective like yours.
Indeed, you are not the target audience!
However, I feel like I have to add that this bad ending is avoidable and in the most recent version of the game, I included a walkthrough to make it easier to explore the different paths.
That being said, even like that, Summer Scent isn't a Harem game.
But there will be happy endings. In fact, there will be more happy endings than anything else. But no harem.
Again, thank you for your feedback!
Needs less focus on shooting out constant development logs filled with minor info dumps and endless constant tweaking of past chapters few of us will deign to replay, and more focus on new material. From what I recall, I think there were only two semi-substantial updates that actually included new material in like two years maybe? Had forgotten this game even existed till now. If they were major updates, I could understand it. But they were pretty minor. The game has potential but needs more focus on the finish line and less fixation on creative perfection of already released materials riddled with rewrites and do overs. Those can be tweaked on or after the final version in my opinion. Stop questioning every step, and push your project forward. These types of games need major updates every 6 months to hold interest. Had my interest a year ago. Not so much anymore.
Well, sorry if you don't like it, but I think these updates are important. I want those who follow me to know what I'm working on.
Sinde 2022, I published about 70 k words of content and about 2000 renders. Not counting what I'm working on at the moment. I have no doubt that it can feel shallow if you play only a path rather than the whole game. But the content is still there. I am slow, that is true. If I wasn't constantly tweaking, rewriting and over stuff, the game wouldn't be as "promising".
However, you are right about my dev cycle being too long. I release every 8 months at the moment, and it's clearly too long. I hope to improve this in the future, as I will be closing some loose ends that will simplify the branching and the writing. However, the posing will still be the most consuming part of the work and I don't see how I can compress it.
I think the Dev updates are very useful, but I can see how it can be annoying to see an update for the game only to find out it's not really an update. Keep doing you and ignore this guy. If he doesn't like it, he can find something else.
I personally really appreciate the dev updates. Sure I would love updated content faster, but if i know that the project is moving forward and whatever goes on behind the scenes, I feel that is valuable to me.
agree'd. some of the best AVNs have potato graphics.
and the following is not directed at anyone in particular -
it seems like too many devs are trying to create visual perfection and get stuck in constant 're-work' cycles, and they forget us consumers are just looking for cartoons we can use our own imaginations with to fill in the gaps. if we wanted photorealism, we'd just watch porn. we play AVNs for the story, not the pretty pictures.
i dont care how many hairs are on the head of the girl, or how deep her 7.32 million 3d pores are, as long as she has something interesting to say.
theres nothing worse than getting invested in a story, then finding out that the author will probably get covid and die before its finished. and its all due to the subscription model. worse, idea, ever. i dont care how may boring teenagers who would otherwise have to stay in school, and instead can now make boring teenage games for bored teenage audiences. patreon = worst, idea, ever.
Well, that's quite simple. Without Patreon, I wouldn't be working on that game.
It's not about making something perfect, but something decent.
You can catch more flies with honey than with vinegar.
I'm trying to transform my vinegar into honey.
That's why the rework needs to happen.
"Without Patreon, I wouldn't be working on that game."
a sacrifice i'm prepared to make for a better system to develop.
i'm so old, i remember when ppl sold finished products.
please help me. i've bought the game to play on my mac. but when it ry to install it this app says that the title is hosed on a third party website. i've downloaded it through Chrome but i can't install and play the game.
Hello there.
I'm sorry for the inconvenience.
Itch support forwarded your mail to me. I replied, hoping they would it forward to you.
According to the renpy documentation, you have to uncompress the archive and directly double-click the app.
I'm quoting the documentation because I don't own a mac and never tried it myself. However, feedback from mac users seems to confirm that.
Let me know if it helps you!
You can contact me directly on Discord for a more instantaneous discussion.
i tries to start the application by double clicking the icon. i recieve the message that the developer can't be verified. and the mac can't verify that the app doesn't have malware in it
Hello again.
It's normal. You will have to trust me and launch the app anyway.
The error message should give you some options. Something like “Open the Settings App, and approve the unverified app”
hi again, the only options i get are cancel and move to bin. that's all
I found some articles that might help you :
https://www.lifewire.com/fix-developer-cannot-be-verified-error-5183898
Especially these points :
3 - If you’re sure you trust the app developer, you can override your security settings and allow the app to install and open.
4 - Bypass the block in your Security & Privacy settings. If the previous method didn’t work, you can go into your Security & Privacy settings and do it manually.
5 - Download the app through Safari. If the above process didn’t work, make sure you downloaded the app using Safari. There’s an issue where downloading apps through other browsers, like Chrome and Edge, will cause a problem when trying to install unsigned apps.
I hope this will resolve your issue.
Thank you for your patience.
I love this game so much, quick question how long will this game be once everything is done? Just asking out of curiosity that's all. Keep up the good work as always and take your time with the new update!
Hello, and thank you.
Right now, the game is about 270 000 words. And I think I'm at about 65% of the story.
Once finished (including the rework of old content), the whole thing will probably be around 450 000 words.
However, I have no goals in terms of words or amount of content. This is just an estimation.
Man, your game is very good. I have played all of versions and new version which day 6 part 3 is added. U sure worked on that well. But .. I think I changed beginning toooo much. You added new dialogues and removed old ones, but I can surely say old one's were better - for example, in new version , Cassie sees MC as a hero and gives all of weird speech(too much) just for he picked her up on the street. I mean her love started too fast it became weird. In old version , it was sure better.
And why spending time on Cassie Dom path? Man, I love your game but this path is absolutely bulshit, and why need for to double it? So his a-hole can be destroyed better? Dude, instead you could make Kelly path better or add 7th day. It is disturbing to watch as you say "not great sex scene incoming; save here".
All the problems aside, this 6th day made things more clear and better. I don't know, if game was a book, I would have read 11million lines. Hope we will get full release soon.
Thank you for your feedback!
I'll check the new version of day one. I didn't find Cassie to be "falling in love" with Jack that easily, but maybe I'm wrong.
I understand perfectly that some may not like the femdom-oriented paths. But some others do!
The seventh day is still pretty far away. The night of day 6 is going to be quite eventful and heavy on the lewds. I'm not sure how I will split it. There is a lot of content ahead and I won't be able to release it in a single update.
Yeah man, you got spirit. Just don't worry about some haters words, you know , they were ass fucked whIle they were kid by their uncle that made them addicted to extreme sex. They just can't feel the power of Lines.
As I said, we hope better updates soon too, like I sometimes forget about how many damn paths your game has, each with its own story.
And do a little favour by making MC's parents late by adding some serious problems like - thief steal their passport, or dad's business works last longer. Idk others but I would wait more than I waited for GTA VI . Thanks 😎 dude
I'll try to stay positive. Even if it's not always easy.
The parents will be late, but they will come back on Sunday, that is set in stone. But who knows what can happen after that ?
It is up to you
I scan this I think it got viruses I think need to re download and scan again I think the files got hacked.
May I ask which files ?
Your game file perhaps it's my imagination I used virus total not a good website.
I scanned the files and didn't find anything. However, I know that renpy games may give some false positive with some AV.
Better safe than sorry however!
I trust deveplors and it wont be there fault theres humdred pf games itchio cant scan them all.
Good game, hope the hate of others dont affect you with the good work you are doing
Thank you ! I try to stay positive and focused !
This is the most bullshit thing i have ever seen?
you try to make money by fooling us?!?!
It's really nothing!!!
You are literally wasting our time !!!!
What is the problem exactly?
I feel like you're being dishonest on purpose.
The game is about 270 000 words long, with several thousands of images. Is that nothing, according to your standards?
I feel like I shouldn't even be replying to your message.
You're the one wasting my time here.
I just tried to download the game after buying it, but the external link doesn't work.
Hello.
May I ask which version of the game are you trying to download?
On my side, all the links seem to work properly.
Do you encounter a specific error?
If you haven't fixed the issue yet, feel free to hit me on Discord and we'll see what we can do.
Thanks. I fixed the issue. Keep up the good work.
Thank you!